Utopiaguide “CCC”

Old 08-20-2008, 08:34 AM   #1
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Magic

Okay Magic, we’ll continue this here.Magic,
Since you have decided to make assertions against us, it’s time to fill you in on several things.
1) We (CCC) all had a hand in the letter that BR wrote to you. He composed it and sent it to us to add or delete anything. Once that was done, he sent it to you.
2) We all voted you out of the CCC before the CCC meeting that we told you not to attend.
3) You still have not let the Morrie thing drop to this day even after we told you to let it go.
4) I have never seen a review of Alyssa, Emily, Melissa nor Christina from you on this board yet you give the impression to others that you have seen them. All I have seen have been reviews on Nature Matters, Shy, Jade and Star.
5) You constantly bombarded us with ******s and phone calls (some of them at irregular times) about stupid crap. Most of them were about Morrie and how he was picking on you and how you were trying to get us to side with you, which we did not.
6) You kept calling me about Cristina (Morrie’s girl) asking me about if she would do weird shit (like golden showers or brown showers) even after I told you that all we did was DFK, DATY, CBJ, and FS.
7) Once you found out that LW and Wolf went to the Lizard Lounge, you conveniently ran into Wolf there one night. You think that you were cordially accepted by him but, in actuality, you blew his shot at a hottie and he has not returned to that bar since because of you.This may get me banned but since I complied with the moderator’s suggestion and moved it to where he told me to, I do not think it will. It’s time for you to have no further association with any of us and we will have no dealings with you unless you push the matter.
Teps

This shows the existence of the “CCC” from utopiaguide.com. It’s also interesting that “Teps” is one of the names that has been used to comment here and on Zero’s Blog. Actually, there have been some other names used on both blogs that are also aliases on UG. Recently, the alias “BillyS” commented about IP addresses; he is also a member on UG.

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Stalking over the years…

I have mentioned UG several times on this blog. I didn’t come across this site until another member on WS pointed it out. The UG site is where “mongers”/”hobbyists” (johns) review “providers”, strip clubs, massage parlors that offer “extras”, etc. Some “providers” join the discussion and give their take on the “hobbyists” and where the “business” is.

There is a particular provider that was a regular in many discussions, including politics. Through reading some of her posts, she seems experienced, intelligent, strong, honest, and an overall good person. She was well liked by many on the site and off. Except for one. One who stalked, harassed, defamed, degraded, and changed aliases for YEARS. She had her wits enough to see on UG what I saw going on in WS. For calling it out for all to read, she was called crazy, unstable, a drama queen, mentally unfit, etc.

Her experience is eerily similar to the same as I’ve had to deal with in the past several months. When a woman is on to his stalking, harassing, defaming, degrading, psychopathic ways, his defence is to up the ante by coming at that woman even harder to keep her quiet. When a woman defends herself, she is then called mentally ill, when in actuality, it is that man who is mentally ill.

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I love how this woman defends herself! She is admirable in my eyes! I hope she is well and that this UG stalker has not silenced her forever like he has with other women.

Group effort

At first glance, the murders of these women seem to have been part of a group effort. Serial killers typically don’t operate with others. The more people who are involved in a crime, the more likely those involved will be caught.

Looking at it from the small bubble of Shannan and GB4, it looks more like a group effort than if you add the earlier murders. Just adding Jane Doe Fire Island 1996 throws the likelihood of these murders being a group effort to a rarity. To have operated without detection for 20 some odd years makes the group effort seem to be non existent.
This killer has “perfected” his “craft” with trial and error. Jane Doe Fire Island 1996 is a perfect example of his “trial and error”. When he dumped her remains in Heckscher State Park, her legs washed ashore on Fire Island, and were found within weeks of her murder. He did not anticipate any of her remains being found so quickly. He had used several locations to dump the bodies of the women he killed: Heckscher State Park, Gilgo Beach, Manorville, Hempstead Lake Park, and there’s probably more that have yet to be discovered.

He’s learned where to and where not to dump the bodies. He’s learned how quickly a body would be discovered in Manorville as opposed to Gilgo Beach. He’s learned to change locations and, for lack of a better phrase, not leave all his eggs in one basket. He’s learned that when a pattern is detected, it is more likely those murders would be attributed to him and more likely to be investigated.

He studies serial killers. He studies killers who have been caught and those who had not been discovered for many years, if at all.

The character flaw of his I compare to BTK. He can’t help his need to be noticed. He can’t help talking about his murders directly (to the families) or indirectly (online message boards). This is exactly how BTK was caught. His ego was so blown out of proportion that he seriously believed he would never be caught. The LISK is of that same over blown ego breed of killers.

The group effort lies within the cover up of Shannan’s disappearance. For 19 months, Shannan had only disappeared in the minds of anyone but her murderer. For 19 months, Shannan had “run into the marsh” in the minds of the police. For 19 months, her body had been hidden, left undiscovered by the FBI and police searches. For 19 months, her killer thought the searches for Shannan would stop and that it would all blow over.

If you think of those closest to the killer, you can start to understand what went through the minds of those who covered his tracks for those 19 months. Imagine your husband, brother, or father… someone comes to you and says he was the last person to see a young woman before she disappeared. I can’t imagine anyone telling me this to be true and I would have a hard time believing it to be possible. It would be easy for my husband/brother/father to manipulate me to believe what he says is true and what others say is false, in turn making me feel like it’s us against the world.

Now go a little outside that family bubble and imagine your neighbor who you’ve gotten to know well over 15+ years. Your children grew up with his, you had summer BBQs together with your families, you had each other over for dinner, your wives were close friends, you had weekly poker nights, went fishing together… This man you’ve gotten to “know” over the years is accused of being the last person to see a young woman before she disappeared. He tells you he knew she was ok and he sent her off with her driver. For 19 months you believe this to be true because you can’t imagine this person you’ve been friends with for 15+ years could be capable of this woman’s disappearance.

On December 5, 2011, police were searching the 90 points of interest that HD images from the FBI Blackhawk helicopter found near Wantagh Parkway, several miles West of Oak Beach. That afternoon during a press conference, the SCPD stated they would “not stop searching until Shannan was found”. That evening, an A&E special on LISK aired and comments about the police doing a shoddy job were made.

Shannan’s killer had more bodies than the 10 police had found over the course of a year and change. The more bodies found in that area, the more likely Shannan’s killer would be linked to the murders. Shannan’s killer had to give up her body to discontinue the searches in that area where he had left more bodies.

There were many speculations of where Shannan’s body was hidden publicly talked about on LISK.com, a website that Shannan’s killer read and studied like it was his job. There was an aerial image with a circle around where someone believed her body may be hidden. Shannan’s belongings were found on December 6, 2011, in the area of that circle, her body found days later off Ocean Parkway accessible to the Oak Beach community.

It was important for Shannan’s killer to leave her belongings in the area that was circled. He needed to have someone to point the finger at should the police call it a homicide. “How did this person know? Could that person be her killer?”

He’s mentioned several names of people who are trying to “frame” him for murder. He’s even accused me on this blog. It would be really difficult to blame me for murder or have motive to frame Hackett for murder.

Because he’s having difficulty trying to convince people I’m trying to frame him for serial murder (that he is trying to pin on me), he is trying to convince my readers (and those on LISK.com and Websleuths) that I am either crazy or actually someone who he has already named as a person capable of murder and/or having reason to frame Hackett.

I’m not related to this case in any way. I’ve never met Hackett. I’ve never been to visit NY. I’m a woman. I’ve never met anyone related to this case man or woman.

He never anticipated some random woman would be able to see the trail he’s left. He never anticipated that woman to be completely unrelated to any inkling of his murders. He never anticipated that he would not be able to intimidate that woman into silence. He never anticipated that woman to be intelligent enough to DO something to lead to his arrest and prosecution. He never anticipated that woman would not give up. He never anticipated he couldn’t silence anyone who caught on to him. He never anticipated someone like me.

I have a strong mind and confidence in myself that any amount of swaying can’t shake. “Peer pressure” has never worked on me, and it won’t now. I don’t care what people think of me because I know me better than anyone. That confidence and security of knowing my intentions are pure, genuine and intuitive are all I need to continue to pursue this case, with or without the support of any other person.

Latest News on WS

The most recent update on the LISK thread on WS is that it is now a members only forum.

Since my ban, I was able to read the threads and posts by the members of WS. The latest rule is for the members of WS: no copying/pasting of member comments on any other forum.

As my reader knows at this point, the member ps149 had me banned for sleuthing CPH. So the rules for the WS members no longer apply to me.

What are the legal ramifications of my quoting with references? Really, none. Let me explain…

Quoting Truthspider:

Truthspider has been vocal in his beliefs. I respect the work he’s done on this case. He is a smart man and I give him credit. I would not “steal” his work to claim as my own. I have given credit where credit is due.

Sharing screen shots with other member quotes:

I have shared screen shots of comments from ps149 that included the member quotes of others. I don’t know if these members want their screen shot comments publicized outside of WS, so I have pixelated their identifying information out of respect for their privacy.

Sharing quotes from ps149:

I’m not even slightly concerned about ps149 or any of his sock puppets taking legal action against me for quoting or posting screen shots of his comments. Why would I not be worried? Because I know it’s CPH commenting. He’s not stupid. He’s not going to expose himself to sue me for slander, libel, copyright infringement, or any legal action he could think of. If he did, it would expose him of being CPH and using WS for years to talk about his many crimes. He’s used sock puppets for many years. Some of his crimes have been blamed on others. DNA evidence has been left, and innocent parties have been released.

Once I came to realize how long he has been doing this on UG, it dawned on me he had been doing the same on WS. If you think he’s only on the LISK thread on WS, you would be sorely mistaken.

The “World Wide Web” has been his playground. He’s used it to stalk his victims before and after his crimes. He’s used it to discuss his crimes. He’s used it to spearhead investigations. He’s used it to “leak” false info to the press. He’s used it to blog about his “theories”, always having the answer because it was he who committed the crimes.

It will be a lot for prosecutors to weed through. He’s left a giant snail trail all over the internet. It’s too wide for him to clean up now, and he is freaking out.