Agendas…

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ps149 

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Originally Posted by [a member that is sharp as a tack]
Mr. PB. I dont think different opinions equal smoke screens. Thats why I said theres a difference between an opinon and an agenda. There is one person I have in mind. NOT YOU. I enjoy reading your post. Along with others.
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Well if you are speaking about me I will say that I do have an agenda but it is not what everyone thinks it is. My agenda is simple-

DO NOT CONVICT SOMEONE PUBLICALLY BASED UPON MOSTLY FALSE) RUMORS AND HEARSAY.

In this case, at this particular moment, this agenda = questioning every single rumor and false information circulating about CPH. I don’t know the man, I AM NOT THE MAN, and I don’t even like the man. What I do like is the fair justice that every American deserves. That is what I do like. What I don’t like is how this CPH distraction is getting in the way of finding the real LISK (or killers). So much energy being wasted on trying to hang CPH. So much energy that could (and should) be directed more postively towards finding the real killer(s).

With that I must now state how regardless of what you have been told, there is not one shred of evidence that CPH has ever denied calling MG. There are rumors and hearsay. He DID deny calling MG to speak to her about the halfway house story. HE DID deny ever speaking with SG. He DID NOT deny making the one 4 minute phone call. Those who are spreading those rumors and hearsay are also the same people spreading rumors and hearsay about how CPH has told his neighbors how he treated SG and couldn’t save her.

No proof.

Just a distracting campaign of rumors and hearsay that seems a bit, well, too organized not to have been started by someone with a vendetta or an agenda to frame CPH.

All this goes back to the 500 pound gorilla in the room that not one person can offer up a reasonable explanation to us to answer;

Why was there never any mention about CPH or his phone call prior to 4/12/11??

MY AGENDA: THE TRUTH. It’s that simple.

Truth: CPH’s mother died SEVENTEEN days after his birth. Complications from the birth? It doesn’t add up.

Truth: CPH’s father wrote a book, The Last Happy Hour, in which he describes being proud of his son’s skills dismembering a lobster at 4 years old, “converting whores”, and bringing his son to Atlantic City where he hired prostitutes. Describing the childhood that created the “whore”-hating man who killed and dismembered prostitutes?

Truth: CPH got his medical degree in 1984. Tina Foglia was dismembered in 1982, with surgical precision.

Truth: CPH has a propensity to take a truth and add his own spin. Newsday covered several stories of just that. The biggest one that comes to mind is the downing of TWA Flight 800. Did it go down in the water near where CPH was living? Yes. Was CPH on the scene? Yes. Did he jump from a helicopter into the fiery water to save the victims? No. CPH’s spin on the truth.

Truth: CPH can be placed near EVERY victim that is linked to the bodies found in Gilgo. He got even more bold after Shannan was last seen alive.

Truth: Shannan’s jacket was seen at the end of Anchor Way. BB witnessed Shannan last. This is basically across the street from CPH’s home.

Truth: Shannan’s belongings were found in CPH’s back yard. The very spot someone on LISK.com circled as the place to look. The person who circled the spot is a neighbor whom CPH had known and had been in court with over a civil disagreement. Not something that would warrant framing CPH for murder.

Truth: CPH denied to the media that he called MG… until MG gave the media the phone records (on April 11, 2011) that proved he did call her.

Truth: April 9, 2011, is the first mention of a “drifter” in the media. Did CPH know that MG had given police the phone records that proved he DID call MG? Did CPH give the reporter at the NY Post the name of the “drifter”? Was this news put out to the media to distract from the news of MG proving that CPH did, in fact, call her?

Truth: All these truths do not prove CPH is guilty of murder. It does, however, make a rational person question CPH’s involvement in this case. All of the truths add up to a lot of circumstances to question and not take the “easy” explanation.

Nothing about this case is black and white. There is a lot of grey area that is hard for a rational person to wrap the mind around. Nothing is as it seems.

I keep my mind open to other possibilities, but if I look at all these truths combined instead of individually, I see that CPH is the most likely person to fit the mold of LISK.

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35 thoughts on “Agendas…

  1. A Voice of Reason says:

    You are a LIAR posting this one- “Truth: Shannan’s belongings were found in CPH’s back yard. The very spot someone on LISK.com circled as the place to look. The person who circled the spot is a neighbor whom CPH had known and had been in court with over a civil disagreement.” If you don’t like being called a LIAR, then why are you posting LIES?

  2. A Voice of Reason says:

    You are reprinting another person’s LIES when you wrote this-
    “Truth: CPH has a propensity to take a truth and add his own spin. Newsday covered several stories of just that. The biggest one that comes to mind is the downing of TWA Flight 800. Did it go down in the water near where CPH was living? Yes. Was CPH on the scene? Yes. Did he jump from a helicopter into the fiery water to save the victims? No. CPH’s spin on the truth.”

    If you don’t like LIARS or being called a liar, then why are you quoting one? Next time pause long enough to call or email the person you are quoting to verify if they told the truth.

  3. A Voice of Reason says:

    “I keep my mind open to other possibilities, but if I look at all these truths combined instead of individually, I see that CPH is the most likely person to fit the mold of LISK.”

    To say it frankly to you and with an honest opinion, you look, sound and are acting more dangerous than CPH or any other person linked to this case.

    Is it true that you pushed yourself on to MG and other family members of victims?

    How is CPH calling MG to offer assistance any different than you sending messages to her or writing this blog to offer your assistance?

    Do you realize that many people are reading your blog and thinking “is she trying to put attention on CPH so nobody will think she is in some way linked to the murders?”

    Afterall, YOU are the one with the history of violence and an arrest. There is no proof that CPH is guilty of anything other than being late for dinner. There is proof that you are potentially a dangerous psychotic pathelogical liar with severe emotional and mental disabilities.

    Seriously you should consider this.

    People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

    Please take a look in the mirror and ask yourself to seak professional help from a medical facility.

  4. I am reminded again of this poem by Mary Howitt entitled the Spider and the fly…

    http://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Spider_and_the_Fly

    And this quote from Morteshia Adams

    “What is normal for the spider, is chaos for the fly.”

    It will be interesting to.see what kind of reaction this brings…it will be telling.

    • mysterymom7 says:

      If you read the comments above without my gravatar, you can get an idea of the reaction.

      • See IMHO the spider is not CPH…but the fly is, now most definately you.
        Don’t fall for the spider. Read the poem…not just the quote. Then re read some of the familiar little ditties, and open your mind to the idea that there may be someone, other than CPH behind the wicked web of deceit.

        Someone doesn’t like your involvement in this case, not because it’s CPH, BUT because you are messing up the case that has been carefully planned and put forth. IMVHO.

  5. I only posted this under AGENDAS because that’s what I believe the Spider has is an agenda. It is not in response to anyone elses posts here on this topic. J/S

  6. Wow! Just wow! SMDH ; ) Can you say Nuckin futz? ; ) There is a method in this madness…best believe! MM7…I don’t think you are as crazy as your nemisis would have us all believe. BUT I still don’t think your nemisis is CPH!

    • mysterymom7 says:

      Ok, so who wants me to STOP writing about Hackett?

      • The people who first started this campaign against CPH IMVHO! They didn’t want or ask for your opions. What happened was you fell under the spell of the Spider and then…took it to a whole nother level, which made it hard for people to believe the “happy hour theory” Nobody is going to believe that “Everybody” is CPH! So you discredited the carefully planned theory that CPH = LISK. Now they must made you look crazy… and reorganize.

      • mysterymom7 says:

        I see what you’re saying, but I formed my OWN opinions with what I read. I don’t think EVERYONE on WS is CPH. I do think CPH has been on WS for far longer than the LISK case.

      • mysterymom7 says:

        And, actually, I’ve added to their CPH = LISK theories. Incredible that the 3 most vocal CPH = LISK theorists were banned or put on permanent time out. Why is that? Did they ban themselves? Did that help their “campaign”? No. With ps149, fieldnotes, and mcme saying, “Stop ‘spreading rumors about CPH’,” when there are DOCUMENTS supporting the FACTS… How do you see a campaign against CPH? It’s a campaign against anyone who opines he’s LISK! Look at the comments on my blog!

  7. mmmaisflying says:

    mysterymom is a joke. How can you put peoples real names on here so sad of you also

  8. JR says:

    *******SECOND REQUEST*******

    Mysterymom please kindly respond to this inquiry at your earliest possible convenience:.

    WHY?

    Seriously… WHY are you after Dr. Charles Peter Hackett and why are you trying to get him convicted for the Gilgo Beach murders? I get it that you think that Charles Peter Hackett is the Long Island Serial Killer. I have read through your blog. I get your point. What puzzles me is the question WHY?

    Why are you drawn to this case?

    You claim to be from Central Florida yet you know so much knowledge about Oak Beach, Long Island and Manorville and Lattingtown.

    What is the motive of a mom from Central Florida to so passionately want to see Charles Peter Hackett convicted?

    You really aren’t from Long Island?

    Are you related to any of the victims?

    Were you good friends with one of the victims?

    This is a serious question. You can gain a ton of respect from your readers if you can explain what your connection is to this case.

    How do you know Mari Gilbert? Is it just through support for her when Shannan was missing or are you a relative or a friend outside of the cyberspace?

    Reading through the posts at ws and at lisk.com and exchanging emails with many of the members from both websites I have come to learn a few things about each person’s motive for following this case.

    I learned that Justiceforeverforever and a few other online posters are current or former sex industry workers. That would explain their motive. I could be incorrect but from you I do not get the vibe that you were ever an escort or a prostitute.

    I learned that Hawkshaw Peter Fiorello has a vendetta against the SCPD for the case against one of his family members.

    I learned that flukeyou Joey Scalise has a vendetta against Charles Peter Hackett due to some stupid neighborhood dispute and legal battle that went on between Joey’s dad Joe Scalise and Dr. Charles Peter Hackett.

    I learned that Truthspider Brendan Murphy is good friends with Joey Scalise flukeyou and hence the support from Brendan Murphy for Joseph Scalise.

    I learned that despite what your research shows, that PS149 is a retired investigator who is all high strung about criminal justice and civil rights for the accused and who still has several connections with investigators who are still being paid to solve the Gilgo cases.

    I learned that FieldNotes is a former school teacher from Long Island named Mike Dougherty who truly attempted to assist MG and her family with the investigation and he is not Jim Jones as he claims to be.

    The list of what I’ve learned about all these people posting online discussing the Gilgo cases goes on and on. Many of them are locals like Fieldnotes Mike Dougherty who are trying to help the community solve the murders. Many of them are family and friends of the victims. On ws especially, many are sleuthers who have a hobby of solving crimes and were members there long before this case came to light. So many people with so many stories.

    Please don’t take this statement the wrong way when I say that the only one that doesn’t fit is you.

    Who are you really and why are you doing this?

    I know who all those other people are and I know the good valid reasons that they have to be discussing the Gilgo case and such. What I cannot figure out is your agenda. Your motive.

    WHY?

    That is the question I ask of you?

    Why from Central Florida out of all of the hundreds of murder cases and mysterious deaths and all of the suspects in those deaths do you pick Dr. Charles Peter Hackett to be your obsession?

    What am I missing?

    • mysterymom7 says:

      Like I said previously, I will be happy to answer your questions if you can tell me if you are “JR”, John Ray, Mari Gilbert’s lawyer. Only if my question is answered will I answer your questions.

  9. I’m starting to think, after reading these bizzare posts, that there is a teenage troll here. One who has serious mental illness, but has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I hope, if this is the case, you find the help you need, but this is not the right forum for that. We are trying to discuss a very serious issue. The murder of innocent victims and you have totally led this discussion into the twilight zone. I suggest you stop before MM7 tells your parents and teachers.

    Having said that, I don’t believe this trll is the only one here.

  10. maineiacgirl says:

    What was the first clue? The rantings about wondering if she’s crazy? Anyone that needs to ask complete strangers if she’s crazy is OBVIOUSLY CRAZY.
    MM7 – I suggest you hop off this train and SEEK HELP.
    I sure hope you are in responsible for the care of the children you mentioned because I fear for their safety if you do and feel that forwarding this entire blog history to CPS wouldn’t be such a bad idea.
    I came here from WS to watch the train wreck – you dind’t disappoint

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